, how to make them understand what is law, what is rule of law? and why humans should deal with each other in this way? the professor said, so i learned one word in english, seek the scan from a tiger. >> so what can you influence than? they know they cannot be influenced. so what are we trying to influence your? now, and my family when i was fighting my parents, i couldn't win over over them because they were my parents. because when they see how i should look, i have to look. so my question, sir, the brookings institution, how, by what kind of steps that you will be able to allow the regular people, ordinary people, to really feel and understand the rule of law? and why do we need the rule of law? >> well, i don't have more of an attitude that. you keep doing what you're doing. you keep doing it. you just keep doing it. i mean, when i talk to -- sandra o'connor, one of my colleagues, you know, she, and kennedy, all of us feel very strongly about in the united states the fact that teenagers and high school students are not learning civics. i don'